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Necrophos + Bristleback extermely op lane combo

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Couldn’t you just switch lanes up so you don’t put a Tri-Lane against them?

Put a solo hero who just wants to get in EXP range more than anything against it (Or something like Dark Seer who’ll harrass them and get some gold at the same time), and then do whatever against the other lanes.

If they are doing it to your safe lane, well pulling the creep wave to deny them experience is also an option.

If you obviously aren’t going to win in a harrass war against them, or even kill them, then just play around them in the laning stage.

That’s basically what I’d do in that situation, and seems to be decent advice in general – If I know I’m going to lose that lane, I’ll just switch out immediately.

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i can think of stronger agressive dual lanes, like replacing 1 of them with an abbadon for instance so you have a hero who is better at supporting then necro.

the thing is that they both are very good against less experienced players because they can suddenly turn fights. but any trilane that leans more towards the strong s > Bristleback and necros heals.

what trilanes are we talking about btw?

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If you’re going for a tri-lane against this dual lane, I might suggest Lich to help deny creeps, pull back the creep wave and starve them of farm and exp to a certain degree, Witch Doctor to heal teammates from harass as well as nice spells to help get kills early game.
I’d suggest a carry who can withstand the harass and also has kill potential so I’d go with Silencer 1. because he can stop BB or Necro from spamming spells for a short duration/nuke, has a mean right click harass as well.

So really to sum up, I’d go with a hero who can keep people healed/alive, another for creep control and a carry who can hold his own with last hits and has kill potential.

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id go for an early kill Tri-lane, 3 stuns with damage.

they are squishy early on and if i was facing them in a lane i would pick.

or if i had the right line up > Timbersaw he has the regen for tanking bb and necro just put 2 points in Reactive Armor and necro aura is negated if you trade hits and with a Magic Wand bb is easy to deal with.

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It’s a very strong dual lane, both heroes have very good lane presence. I understand that most dual lanes would lose against a lane like this, but a trilane? I doubt it.

Either you play a solo laner against them. It can be the best choice. say, you put a Clinkz or Queen of Pain for example. This way you can get last hits from a distance. The weakness of necro + bristle lane is that they have no disable. They’re good at harassing, but they have no lockdown, so no kill potential if you don’t mess up horribly. A solo Lone Druid works too.

But honestly a good trilane should make short work of them. Play a lane with lots of stuns , e. g Lion + Vengeful Spirit + Naga Siren , and you can burst down that bristle easily. Necro is really squishy early also, so 2 stuns = dead necro. Another example I like : Skywrath Mage + Crystal Maiden + Juggernaut . Any kill combo basically. Pulling is essential, neither Bristle nor Necro have an escape mechanism, so controlling the creep equilibrium wins you the lane. You need to burst down either bristle or necro and play aggressive early, you can’t just stand there while you are getting your face quilled. Burst damage and stuns are your friends.

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It’s a very strong dual lane, both heroes have very good lane presence. I understand that most dual lanes would lose against a lane like this, but a trilane? I doubt it.

Either you play a solo laner against them. It can be the best choice. say, you put a Clinkz or Queen of Pain for example. This way you can get last hits from a distance. The weakness of necro + bristle lane is that they have no disable. They’re good at harassing, but they have no lockdown, so no kill potential if you don’t mess up horribly. A solo Lone Druid works too.

But honestly a good trilane should make short work of them. Play a lane with lots of stuns , e. g Lion + Vengeful Spirit + Naga Siren , and you can burst down that bristle easily. Necro is really squishy early also, so 2 stuns = dead necro. Another example I like : Skywrath Mage + Crystal Maiden + Juggernaut . Any kill combo basically. Pulling is essential, neither Bristle nor Necro have an escape mechanism, so controlling the creep equilibrium wins you the lane. You need to burst down either bristle or necro and play aggressive early, you can’t just stand there while you are getting your face quilled. Burst damage and stuns are your friends.

When they get lvl 3 they are very hard to kill coz Necro healing and quill spam, also silencer dont work vs bristleback coz he have cheap spamming abilities, true wand will help, but not that much, also Necro aura is very painful on lane stage becouse you are all time in her range. And than as these two bosses (Necro, Bristle) reach level 6 than they just rape team fights like knife in the butter. And many games just end in 20 minute mark coz these two tough guys are so unkilable in early/m >

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They’re a pretty strong dual, I see these often against obvious defensive trilanes. I like Undying+1 a lot better than Necro+BB though.

Best thing you can do is run a passive solo (most offlaners will do fine) to protect the tower, keep TP support available to deal with dives, and focus on the other lanes.

I guess you could specifically pick a trilane to deal with it, but imo that’s rarely worth it. Much better to have your supports free to move around the map.

Necrophos + Bristleback extermely op lane combo

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Forum » General Discussion » Necrophos + Bristleback extermely op lane combo 8 posts – page 1 of 1

Posts: 21

Couldn’t you just switch lanes up so you don’t put a Tri-Lane against them?

Put a solo hero who just wants to get in EXP range more than anything against it (Or something like Dark Seer who’ll harrass them and get some gold at the same time), and then do whatever against the other lanes.

If they are doing it to your safe lane, well pulling the creep wave to deny them experience is also an option.

If you obviously aren’t going to win in a harrass war against them, or even kill them, then just play around them in the laning stage.

That’s basically what I’d do in that situation, and seems to be decent advice in general – If I know I’m going to lose that lane, I’ll just switch out immediately.

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i can think of stronger agressive dual lanes, like replacing 1 of them with an abbadon for instance so you have a hero who is better at supporting then necro.

the thing is that they both are very good against less experienced players because they can suddenly turn fights. but any trilane that leans more towards the strong s > Bristleback and necros heals.

what trilanes are we talking about btw?

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If you’re going for a tri-lane against this dual lane, I might suggest Lich to help deny creeps, pull back the creep wave and starve them of farm and exp to a certain degree, Witch Doctor to heal teammates from harass as well as nice spells to help get kills early game.
I’d suggest a carry who can withstand the harass and also has kill potential so I’d go with Silencer 1. because he can stop BB or Necro from spamming spells for a short duration/nuke, has a mean right click harass as well.

So really to sum up, I’d go with a hero who can keep people healed/alive, another for creep control and a carry who can hold his own with last hits and has kill potential.

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id go for an early kill Tri-lane, 3 stuns with damage.

they are squishy early on and if i was facing them in a lane i would pick.

or if i had the right line up > Timbersaw he has the regen for tanking bb and necro just put 2 points in Reactive Armor and necro aura is negated if you trade hits and with a Magic Wand bb is easy to deal with.

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It’s a very strong dual lane, both heroes have very good lane presence. I understand that most dual lanes would lose against a lane like this, but a trilane? I doubt it.

Either you play a solo laner against them. It can be the best choice. say, you put a Clinkz or Queen of Pain for example. This way you can get last hits from a distance. The weakness of necro + bristle lane is that they have no disable. They’re good at harassing, but they have no lockdown, so no kill potential if you don’t mess up horribly. A solo Lone Druid works too.

But honestly a good trilane should make short work of them. Play a lane with lots of stuns , e. g Lion + Vengeful Spirit + Naga Siren , and you can burst down that bristle easily. Necro is really squishy early also, so 2 stuns = dead necro. Another example I like : Skywrath Mage + Crystal Maiden + Juggernaut . Any kill combo basically. Pulling is essential, neither Bristle nor Necro have an escape mechanism, so controlling the creep equilibrium wins you the lane. You need to burst down either bristle or necro and play aggressive early, you can’t just stand there while you are getting your face quilled. Burst damage and stuns are your friends.

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It’s a very strong dual lane, both heroes have very good lane presence. I understand that most dual lanes would lose against a lane like this, but a trilane? I doubt it.

Either you play a solo laner against them. It can be the best choice. say, you put a Clinkz or Queen of Pain for example. This way you can get last hits from a distance. The weakness of necro + bristle lane is that they have no disable. They’re good at harassing, but they have no lockdown, so no kill potential if you don’t mess up horribly. A solo Lone Druid works too.

But honestly a good trilane should make short work of them. Play a lane with lots of stuns , e. g Lion + Vengeful Spirit + Naga Siren , and you can burst down that bristle easily. Necro is really squishy early also, so 2 stuns = dead necro. Another example I like : Skywrath Mage + Crystal Maiden + Juggernaut . Any kill combo basically. Pulling is essential, neither Bristle nor Necro have an escape mechanism, so controlling the creep equilibrium wins you the lane. You need to burst down either bristle or necro and play aggressive early, you can’t just stand there while you are getting your face quilled. Burst damage and stuns are your friends.

When they get lvl 3 they are very hard to kill coz Necro healing and quill spam, also silencer dont work vs bristleback coz he have cheap spamming abilities, true wand will help, but not that much, also Necro aura is very painful on lane stage becouse you are all time in her range. And than as these two bosses (Necro, Bristle) reach level 6 than they just rape team fights like knife in the butter. And many games just end in 20 minute mark coz these two tough guys are so unkilable in early/m >

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They’re a pretty strong dual, I see these often against obvious defensive trilanes. I like Undying+1 a lot better than Necro+BB though.

Best thing you can do is run a passive solo (most offlaners will do fine) to protect the tower, keep TP support available to deal with dives, and focus on the other lanes.

I guess you could specifically pick a trilane to deal with it, but imo that’s rarely worth it. Much better to have your supports free to move around the map.